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Q&A with David Schelzel - February 2000
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It's been a long road from the SEE album, and
probably not at all what you expected. Mercury collapsed and left
TOB and many other bands in limbo. Is the band completely severed
from their relationship with Mercury? Do you have another label
lined up, or will you remain independent?
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The band is completely severed from Mercury and the label, as we
knew it, is no more. That all went down about a year ago, and although
it was a long time in limbo, we fared better than a lot of other
bands at the label. We decided to release Davy Jones' independently,
in part, because we couldn't quite stomach the thought of returning
to the major label world. However, we may end up farming the record
out to a label this year that would put it into retail- so people
wouldn't have to mail order the thing and so the CD gets to substantially
more people.
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| It must have been
hard--both creatively and financially--to sit idly while Mercury went
through its death convulsions. Did the band go through a reassessment
period because of this experience? |
| It was certainly frustrating for all
concerned and in many different ways. |
| How did DJL come
about? I recognize a few of the tracks ("Ayn," "Consolation Prize,"
and "Do You Still Remember Me?") as songs you were trying out prior
to the release of SEE. Was DJL an evolution of the so-called "unreleased
tracks" record? |
| The record contains songs that we
worked on while at PolyGram, that is Mercury. Some of the tunes were
lined up for SEE THE OCEAN BLUE, but for one reason or another, did
not go on. So you may recognize some of the DJL tunes if you saw us
live. We occasionally played them out. When we finally knew that we
were leaving Mercury, we said hey, we like these tunes and the recordings
we did of them, while a bit raw, have a quality about them that would
make an interesting record. And I think they do. It is certainly our
most "moody" record since CERULEAN. |
| You recorded this
album yourselves. Did you find the process to be very different? Did
you use any new recording techniques or approaches? |
| Well, yes. We were not thinking while we were doing
the recording "THIS is THE record." We had no A&R or producer input
whatsoever. We were at home most of the time. We were using less tracks
and spiffy gear (although Rob and Oed and I have some fun things).
And we were not spending ungodly amounts of cash. I think the last
point is one of the ironic beauties of the record. We probably expended
1/100th the amount of time and money on DAVY JONES LOCKER than our
major label records and although it doesn't reach the upper echelons
of some of our previous productions, it's as much fun for me to listen
to. And I have heard from many a fan who has said as much. |
| What inspired
"Denmark?" The lyrics to me evoke a strong mental picture, much like
"Questions of Travel." |
| "Denmark" is perhaps my favorite
song of any that I have written. It is kind of the thesis of DAVY
JONES LOCKER. It is my own little existential poem. The lyrics were
in fact written in Denmark when the band was touring there in 1994,
and although I didn't know it at the time, they were somewhat prophetic.
Musically, it is the most interesting tune in large part because it
came about in a very organic and inspired way and there is a bit of
a riddle to it. I am curious to see how many folks unravel it. |
| "Ayn" is about
Ayn Rand, true? |
| Yes. |
| Rob's lead vocal
on "Been Down A Lot Lately" was a pleasant surprise, perhaps mostly
because this is the fifth TOB album and this was the first time he
had a lone writing and singing credit. Has Rob written a lot of songs,
or was this a unique occurrence? |
| Rob has written songs as long as I
have known him. When I first meet him, he wrote a lot of less serious
type tunes- not really the sort we were doing in The Ocean Blue. As
time went on, he did write some songs we worked on as a band, but
we never used them because either he didn't like them or the band
didn't. Rob and I also have always had a bit of debate about the singing.
He would have liked to have me sing his tunes. I have always argued
the "Beatles model"- i.e., the writer sings his own song. Besides,
as you can hear on DJL, Rob can really sing. Rob has always countered
that my voice represented the band- I was the singer and therefore
I should sing. As a fan of other bands, this does make sense to me,
but for myself, I sing in TOB only as a writer singing his song. I
never think of myself as a singer per se (and for good reason- have
you heard me sing?!) |
| A lot of people
are intrigued by the background vocal on "Been Down A Lot Lately."
Whose voice is that? |
| That's a Rob Minnig secretJ |
| "City Traffic"
has been a fan favorite at live shows for years. Why wasn't this included
on DJL? |
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We recorded that for CBS and they own the master. We could re-record
it but just never found the will. It is a very old song and I really
associate that song with our early days. It was a fun number live.
I always see Steve diving for those keyboards, and on a number of
occasions, knocking down that ironing board.
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| The album title,
Davy Jones' Locker: a nod to a Monkee or a nautical reference? |
| That's the beauty, isn't it? |
| Many fans are
saying that DJL seems to be a return to the signature sound of the
first three albums (although I would say there is a hint of SEE in
there, too). Would you say this is the "truest" TOB sound, since you
produced it yourselves? Will you continue with this type of style,
or would you be looking to experiment and expand your sound? |
| See, I would disagree. I know why
they think that, but to put it that way makes it sound like we "coped"
a sound for SEE THE OCEAN BLUE. I see as much disparity from THE OCEAN
BLUE to CERULEAN as I do STOB to DAVY JONES' LOCKER. We don't calculate
a sound for a record. It just happens. We do what we find interesting
and we make it where we find ourselves. Oed and I, and probably Rob
too, were into a lot of older guitar driven pop/ rock bands when we
were working on SEE THE OCEAN BLUE, so that comes out. But I must
tell you if songs like, "Slide" or "Ways & Means" are not what we
are about, I am lostJ But you know,
it doesn't really matter. I can't be objective anyway. Whatever we
do in the future - collectively or individually- will be whatever
we find interesting and compelling. So who knows what that will be.
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| So far the album
has been publicized on a couple websites and (I presume) some promotional
mailings. What other ways are you planning to promote and sell the
album? |
| Yes, websites like yours and the Drone's
have been a big help, and for more than just promoting DAVY JONES'.
We are not a record label or promotion company, so we ourselves won't
be doing anything more then letting people on our mailing lists know
about the record. There have been a number of DJ's and press folks
who have requested the record, so that is probably the only other
thing that has happened. We are leaning towards trying to find a label
for DJL so that it does find its way into stores and gets some promotion.
We weren't quite sure at first if this would be a good idea, but so
far its seems to be a very good thing. |
| It's coming up
on three years since the band performed live. I get a lot of correspondence
from folks who tell me they are big fans yet have never seen the band
in concert. I imagine it would be difficult to have a tour without
label support. That said, what would it take for you to do a show?
ARE you planning any sort of shows? I can tell you that even if you
did a local show that a lot of fans would gladly made the pilgrimage
to Hershey. |
| We just don't know what we will be
doing this year as far as performing. I would prefer to wait until
and if the record is on a label to do any touring. It makes no sense
to do a tour without anything new out there. We may decide to do something
isolated, but the earliest either way would be this summer. |
| Considering that it was three years
between album releases and a couple tracks came from the SEE sessions,
you must still have a lot of songs queued up. Is there enough material
for another full album? |
| There is enough material for numerous
records. The question is what kinda record they would make... |
| What is the band doing these days?
Are you recording? Practicing? |
| The band is not recording or practicing
together at the moment. Oed and I and some friends are cooking up
some things, and I believe Rob is hibernating in his new studio. |
| How has the time off from recording/touring
affected the band? Do you meet together as much? Do you have "real"
jobs now? |
| We have always had more to our lives than the recording
and touring schedule of the band. In fact, I could never live a life
dominated by either. I would have quit music as a teenager. I think
it also makes for bad music- sorta eightiesontheroadBonJovi songsJ |
| Have you thought of working on any
side projects, perhaps with Allen Clapp, or something different altogether
(for example Rob's playing with the Magpies)? |
| Yes we have and are doing things of
this sort. |
| Your bad experience with Mercury
aside, what's your take on today's music business in general? |
| I am a realist when it comes to Mercury and the major
label experiences I have had. I will not (in my better moments) complain
about our experience there or at Warner Bros./ Sire- we were fortunate
to be at both places for so long. That said, I do not ever see us
going back. Things are much different today than they were when we
began the band 12 years ago. For one thing, technology has fundamentally
changed the industry. It has given more power to artists- both creatively,
economically, and promotionally while diminishing the power of the
big labels. But candidly, I never found it easy to mix "music" and
"business." One always gets in the way of the other. |
| Considering new technologies like
MP3s and home computers that allow you to record, mix, and produce
music in your basement, where do you think music is headed? Are you
embracing any of this new technology? |
| As above, yes. I think technology
is good. Good only as a means though. Not an end. To the extent it
gives artist's more freedom and new possibilities, it is good. To
the extent it is a distraction and increases the mediocre, it's bad.
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| How involved are you with the Internet?
Do you follow any of the discussions about the band on the TOB listserv?
And if so, what do you make of some of those topics that speculate
on what the band is doing, whether it is still together, etc? |
| Well, we all have computers and use
the Internet like just about everyone else. I happen to love my Dell
laptop. And Oed his iMac. I think the groups are a good thing as far
as they promote a community of people who like the same music, but
there is this other side. It's like living in the city or reading
a newspaper. One has to be savvy. One has to be smart. Don't believe
everything you hear. |
| What kind of music do you listen
to these days? Do you have any influences from current artists, or
do you look back at some of your favorite bands from the 80s for inspiration?
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| Actually, I have been listening to
a lot of 80s music this past year that I loved growing up. I love
to listen to the music of my friends. Not a lot on the charts moves
me. I like indie stuff and some big stars like Beck and hits here
and there. But I don't know, I don't listen much. |
| In more than a decade of making
music and performing, what has been the highlight for The Ocean Blue? |
| You know it's not the charts, the
videos, the TV or the radio. It's the records. The chance to make
records. Walk into a store in Denmark and see your music on the shelf.
And second, see your name surrounded by Japanese. |
| What is next for The Ocean Blue?
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| That I really do not know! |
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